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WATER QUALITY
IN MARINE MAMMAL EXHIBITS
Panel Discussion
at the Ninth Annual Conference of The International Marine Animal Trainers
Association, Niagara Falls, USA. October 1981.
CHAIRMAN:
Ed Krajniak
Brookfield Zoo
PARTICIPANTS:
Al Clifton
Aquarium of Niagara Falls, USA
John Dineley
North Wales, Great Britain
Austin McDevitt
Minnesota Zoological Garden
Greg Siebenaler
Gulfarium
Dr. Jay Sweeney
Palos Verdes, California
Dr. Sweeney
started the discussion with an overall view of water quality and filtration
systems. The remaining panel members then followed, telling about the
water quality and filtration systems they deal with in their oceanariums.
The main topics addressed were as follows:
1) Total
gallons of water in system
2) Type of filters used
3) Water turnover rate
4) Type of salt used -if artificial
5) Salt level maintained in pools
6) Make-up water added per day
7) Chemicals added for clarity and bacteria control
8) Types of test kits used to monitor chemicals
9) Do they monitor for nitrate, nitrite, ammonia?
10) Bacteria, fungus, yeast or coliform tests
JAY SWEENEY,
D.V.M.: My business being here is to provide you with an orientation on
water quality. Basically, to bring us all up to a basic plane of knowledge
so that as we talk further with the various panel members we will all
know what we're talking about.
Most of us
are quite aware, I think, that we have problems with water if we don't
treat it in some way. As our knowledge of water quality treatment becomes
more refined, we're finding that there are probably as many problems that
come from over treating as those that come from under treating and so
it's very important that we refine our knowledge and that we create this
fine center point which provides for good quality water, while not creating
a problem with animals when doing so. Well, what are we trying to do with
water in treating it? Basically, there is removal of particulates, removal
of biological wastes, control of microorganisms, control of algae, removal
of organic and inorganic colors, and providing homeostasis in a variety
of other aspects.
The end result,
of course, is to maintain water that is healthy for the animals, and water
that looks good, because most of our animals are in a fishbowl exhibit
type of setup.
Removal of
Particulates doesn't provide much of a problem for most of us. Many of
us use some form of filtration, at least mechanical filtration; pressure
filters, diatomaceous earth filters and/or gravity filters. But there
are other forms of particulate removal including flocculents, activated
carbon. Ozone, which we'll discuss through most of this discussion this
morning and afternoon, also is a substance useful in removing particulates,
but it has many more uses besides.
As we go
along we're going to note that whatever your treatment of water, the most
advantageous situation, of course, is water exchange. If you can change
your water, if you're Marineland of the Pacific, if you're Seaquarium,
any of these places that are on the coast, this is by far the most advantageous
means of water treatment. So most of our discussion is for those of you
who must deal with water in a closed system.
Removal of
Biological Wastes is, of course, among the primary reasons for water treatment.
To elucidate a little bit on wastes, what are the basic wastes we're talking
about? We're talking about feces and urine, but for the sake of discussion,
we can look at waste as nitrogen, or, more specifically, as ammonia. Animals
excrete ammonia and this is the primary biological waste that goes into
our water systems.
The basic
method of removal of biological wastes is through a process called oxidation.
We oxidize the wastes away. This is why we use many of the chemicals that
we use; chlorine for one. So what we're trying to do, and we're going
to go through a bit of chemistry, really very, very basic chemistry, is
we take ammonia, and we oxidize it through chemicals or other methods,
basically to nitrogen, to oxygen and hydrogen, as free hydrogen or as
water. If all goes well, this is what we're doing. Nitrogen blows off
as gas, the oxygen blows off as gas or mixes into the water, and the hydrogen
goes to create pH and also goes off as gas. That's the ideal situation
to get rid of ammonia.
Now the problem
is that this is the ideal situation. When we're adding chemicals to get
rid of ammonia we can start creating problems. The most common oxidant,
the chemical we're using to oxidize the waste products away, of course,
is chlorine. The problem with chlorine is that chlorine combines with
the nitrogen to form byproducts, which, of course, are chloramines. So
instead of going directly from ammonia to nitrogen and oxygen, ammonia
combines with chlorine and goes to chloramine, which is NH2CI, dichloramine
(NHC12) and trichloramine (NC13). These are the primary problem products
of our attempts to oxidize ammonia to its harmless by-products. The basic
point then, of course, is that we oxidize ammonia away.
There are
three basic methods of using chlorine in water treatment. One is low concentration;
very low levels 0.2_3 parts per million of chlorine. Break point chlorination,
which is basically a high dose chlorine maintained as free chlorine, attempting
to avoid the combination of chlorine into the chloramine groups. The last
method is chlorine used as a shock treatment; that is to say, extremely
high, potentially toxic high levels of chlorine to completely blow out
any ammonia-nitrogen groups present.
We've all
had experience with chlorine and know that there are problems with chlorine
groups. So what other means of oxidation procedures do we have in order
to remove ammonia? The other, and probably coming into use now more than
anything else, is the use of ozone. Some of you are beginning to use ozone.
Ozone is 03; it's a charged oxygen, by nature of the extra oxygen group.
Normally oxygen is 02. If you put one more oxygen molecule on there it's
03. It very quickly reduces to 02, giving off an oxygen, which is a strong
oxidant, and thereby directly reduces ammonia to its basic products of
oxygen and nitrogen. The problem with ozone at the present time is, we
don't know yet what the toxicity of the stuff is, and the more important
problem, I think, as we perhaps get into the discussion through the panel,
is the maintainability of ozone production units. It's an extremely good
oxidant, very effective in removing the waste products, but the problem
is can we get the units to work well enough to make it functional? Sea
World has been using ozone for a number of years now in large concentration
units. The fact that makes ozone more readily available to most of us
nowadays is that companies are beginning to produce ozone units in portable
generators that are inexpensive. We're finding that very low levels of
ozone are adequate in order to control many of the nitrogen products.
We don't any longer need very heavy concentrations. Ozone's a real potential
water treatment mechanism.
One of the
aspects of waste removal, which is just now coming into some use in mammal
systems, is the one that's been used in aquarium systems for many years,
very effectively, and that's biological filtration. Very few organizations
have adopted biological filtration in a large degree in mammal systems.
New England Aquarium has it to a small degree, and some that are being
designed now are beginning to have it planned for use in marine mammal
systems. Basically, what we're doing is we're asking a bacteria to do
the basic work that we've been asking chlorine to do, and ozone to do,
for so long. What happens here is, if you have your ammonia, you expose
it to oxygen aerated water and bacteria. The bacteria converts the ammonia
to nitrite which in itself is fairly toxic. But what happens to the nitrite
is more bacteria and oxygen convert it to nitrate so that the nitrate
is non-toxic. So that we can take a system with no treatment whatsoever,
providing we provide a substrate for bacteria to grow, and we circulate
the water through that substrate, much like the bottom filter in an aquarium.
There are
more efficient means, like what's being done in sewage treatment plants
nowadays. We can, in effect, remove these biological wastes from the water
with no other form of treatment, whatsoever. The problem is that it's
a delicate system, it requires a lot of delicate handling and it is unproven
as yet. I think you're going to hear more about biological filtration
in the future. It has, I think, a role in mammal water treatment systems.
But we'll wait and see what kind of usage it gets.
Activated
carbon: we also don't hear too much about activated carbon. It's another
one of those agents that's used in fish systems a lot. Carbon has a very
nice property, and that's that it's a very porous substance. Water circulates
through it well and it also has a property of being attracted to just
about anything chemical in the water. It removes nitrogen, it removes
ammonia, it removes practically anything from the water providing water
can circulate through it and all the pores in the carbon are not already
filled up by stuff that's passed through. Carbon has a real potential
not only in fish systems, but also in mammal systems, in that it is very
effective in cleaning out a lot of this stuff and, in effect, has no effect
on water, besides at that point when the water circulates through it.
The problem is that it's expensive, it's heavy when you have to deal with
it in the filters, and it's a bit cumbersome to work with. However, again,
it produces no toxic side effects and we like that very much.
So there
are a lot of ways of dealing with biological wastes. Not just chlorine,
which we have used in the past. We've got ozone, we've got the biological
filtration, we've got activated carbon and there are several others, in
fact, coming up through the research mill that may give us some relief
from the problems we've all experienced with chlorine. Keep your eyes
open, keep your minds open to the idea of new treatment systems for handling
biological wastes.
Control of
microorganisms really is the second basic important factor in treating
water. Bacteria tend to build up if the water's not purified in some way.
They build up because animals are defecating feces that are rich in bacteria.
Bacteria builds up, because animals are secreting biological wastes, which
serve as good nutrient bases for bacteria to grow. So, if we're going
to recirculate water, we need to have some way of dealing with bacteria,
obviously. One of the myths in aquatic systems management, with mammals
at least, has been that we need to sterilize our water. Most of us, I
think, know now that this is not true. In fact, it's a harmful type of
thing to achieve. We'd like to have a balance of bacteria in the water,
just keeping the bacteria down to some reasonable low level, and that
level has been established through regulatory channels at 1,000 col if
orms, which are fecal bacteria, per 100 mi I I ileters (m Is) of water.
Most of us would rather see our water a little bit better than that. I
think if I had to pick an ideal bacteria count for water, I would look
at something like 100 coliforms per per 100 mls of water which is just
fine for keeping that balance between bacteria, fungi and all the rest
of the things that are in the water.
At any rate,
we need to control microorganisms and how've we been doing this? We've
been doing it with chlorine. Obviously, chlorine is not only a strong
oxidant for dealing with ammonia wastes, but chlorine is also a strong
anti-bacterial, anti-fungal, really strong anti-fungal, chemical. But,
of course, we already discussed that chlorine presents a considerable
amount of problems. So what else do we have to use in dealing with bacteria
problems? Well, you might have guessed the next alternative, of course,
is ozone. Ozone not only is an extremely good oxidizer of biological wastes,
but it's also even perhaps more effective in killing bacteria. The problem
with ozone is that it's probably too good at killing bacteria, and the
only saving grace to ozone is that, the way that it's applied in most
systems, it will dissipate rapidly and by the time it gets out to the
main tank where your animals are, they continue defecating and they keep
a supply of bacteria living in the tank. Ozone does have some potential
here in the control of microorganisms. Well, what else? Copper. Copper
has been used but copper is not very effective in controlling bacteria.
It has its own toxic by-product. Copper is a livertoxin, and we have enough
liver problems as it is. We don't need to add to it with copper, although
copper is commonly used in many aquarium and oceanarium systems. What
else is going to control bacteria for us? Quaternary ammonium (Q) compounds
have been used in the distant past, but are rarely used today.
Ultra-violet
(UV) light: some aquarium systems have been using UV light. I think the
Niagara systems have been using it. Mystic, I think, has used it in some
respects. UV light is very toxic to all living organisms, bacteria, virus,
fungi. The problem with UV light is that in the size systems that we're
talking about, which is normally 100,000 gallons and larger systems, you
need contact time with UV light and you don't have the time. Putting water
through UV light filters to get that contact, and get back out to the
tank in order to maintain your two to four hour circulation times is a
problem. So UV light is good in small systems under 100,000 gallons. Going
into larger systems, UV light just isn't set up to do the job under the
technology that we currently have.
Biological
filtration has an indirect role in the control of microorganisms because,
don't forget, some of the microorganisms that we have in our systems come
from the nutrient base that the ammonia provides. So if we can control
the nutrient base by using biological filtration, we avoid the substrate
upon which bacteria grow. We can thereby indirectly limit the number of
bacteria that are allowed to grow in the system. It's not effective when
we've got a large amount of feces going into a system, but in a low volume
system, low animal load system, perhaps biological filtration has a significant
effect. Of course, water exchange is the best way to get rid of the bad
water and exchange it for new, good water if we have the luxury of being
near a good water source.
Control of
algae: Many of us who deal with systems that are exposed to sunlight have
algae problems. Speaking of algae, it's an interesting phenomenon of water
systems, particularly closed systems, that none of them are the same.
You can say, "Well, we need to break point chlorinate this system-,
we need to provide ozone to this system, we need to do this, and do that,"
and what works for one system, we found, doesn't necessarily work for
another system. It's almost uncanny to look at the same volume of water,
the same basic visual circumstances, where one has an algae problem, the
other has a bacterial problem, or none at all. So as we talk, you should
be reminded that each system is independent, separate and somewhat fickle
in its own way. We oftentimes need to find the best way for our system,
and take what we can from the information that's provided by other systems.
Algae's a
real nuisance because, of course, it turns our water green and it makes
it unappealing to look at. Algae itself has no toxic effect upon animals,
and, in fact, the only potential health risk that algae provides is, when
it dies, it provides more nitrogen base for combining with chlorine and
potentially is a substratefor bacteria to grow and consume oxygen. But
basically, algae isn't a health risk problem. It's purely a visual, esthetic
problem. Chlorine is a reasonably good algaecide. Chlorine in large enough
concentrations will take care of most of your algae problems. Of course,
the problem with chlorine is that it combines with the by-products of
algae, the dead algae, combining into chloramines and again we have the
chloramine problem that plagues us with chlorine.
Another problem
with chlorine is that algae tends to develop a resistance to it gradually
so that as time goes by, year after year, we need higher levels of chlorine
in order to maintain some sort of level of control over algae. So chlorine
in itself is fine, but be careful, over long periods of time, of the problems
that are going to come with it. Well, ozone is very effective against
algae. It kills it extremely efficiently. A problem that we're having
with ozone is that we're beginning to use it in some of these closed systems,
small closed system oceanariums, 70,000 gallons to 200,000 gallons. We
find that we get good contact with algae in the pipes where the ozone
is discharged and where the action occurs, but by the time the water gets
around and back out into the tank, most of the ozone is dissipated and
gone. Which is what we want because ozone is potentially toxic. We don't
know how toxic, but there's always concern for that. But when you get
out to the tank, your ozone is dissipated pretty much, and all your treatment
which took place in the pipes is no longer taking place in the tank. Therefore,
you have basically untreated water exposed to sunlight, if you're in direct
sunlight. The systems that are using ozone as their basic treatment mechanism,
and are in direct sunlight, have a problem with algae. The algae, although
it's killed immediately as it goes through the ozone contact, gets out
in the tank and multiplies like crazy and the ozone doesn't control it
out there where your animals are all swimming around.
So many times
when we're dealing in these small systems, we need to add some other form
of treatment and there are a number of them. One, of course, is copper
and copper is a very efficient, strong algaecide; very effective in killing
algae. But the problem with algae and copper is that, again, the algae
becomes resistant to it. It takes more and more and more and more copper
in order to kill the algae. When we get into higher levels of copper,
one part per million or higher, we're getting into the range where we
don't know what effect that copper has on the livers of our dolphins and
sea lions. Because of this, we are concerned about the use of copper in
high concentrations and for a prolonged period of time.
There are
other algaecides. There's this new one, Simazine or Algi-Gon, which is
becoming very popular. It's being used in fish systems extensively for
dealing with algae and it's a very effective algaecide under certain circumstances.
We're finding that if you take a tank that's green, pea green, and put
Simazine or Algi-Gon in there it really doesn't do the job. But we're
finding that Simazine is a good preventative against the buildup of algae
in the first place. In other words, we get into a deal where we have a
basic acceptable starting point; our water's clean, we're using ozone
and we start our water circulating. We add our Algi-Gon at that point
and maintain a level of Algi-Gon for a certain period of time. The algae
tends to be prevented from growing and that seems to be an effective use
of that chemical. Where we think we're going in the control of algae in
ozone systems is using combinations of substances, using ozone with chlorine
for a period of time, switching over to ozone with copper for a period
of time and intermittently changing our form of algae treatment and, thereby,
preventing the buildup of resistance among the algae organisms that are
present.
Removal of
organic and inorganic colors: Those of you who deal in closed systems
have perhaps experienced water that turns somewhat of a greenish color.
Treatment for algae doesn't seem to have any effect on it. What that appears
to be is a very complicated, hi-molecular weight chloramine. We talked
about chloramines as being monochloramin, dichloramines and trichloramines,
but when a chlorine combines with ammonia or with other nitrogen groups,
it not only forms the simple mono-, di- and trichloramines, but also form
many different kinds of chloramine-nitrogen molecules. One of them appears
to be a very large one which produces this green color and it's nearly
impossible to get it out of there and it's been a real headache. There
now appear to be several ways of taking that color out, that I can share
with you. One, of course, which we talked about, is activated carbon.
It takes out, as we said, virtually any chemical that happens to be in
the water, including chlorine, copper or anything else that happens to
be there. Activated carbon will take out many of the organic and inorganic
color producing agents that wind up causing us so much annoyance in these
close systems.
But again,
in dealing with activated carbon, we're dealing with a bulk substance,
something that's difficult to deal with once the active sites in the carbon
are utilized. Here, I think, the most effective anti-color agent is now
ozone. And we've gone through ozone, ozone, ozone, ozone. But ozone is
going to be, and is, one of the most effective means of water treatment,
providing that we can deal with some of the maintenance problems with
it. Ozone is extremely effective in oxidizing away the inorganic and organic
color producing chemicals in the water and has a very big role in the
future of water treatment. Looking at ozone in this particular instance
copper doesn't have much of a role here. Copper in itself is a coloring
agent and it's just going to add to our problems. Mechanical filtration:
diatomaceous (DE) earth filters do not work. Generally, most of the color
producing agents are molecular in size and will go right through a DE
filter, so most of these kinds of things are unaffected by most of the
mechanical filtration. And, of course, if we can change our water we have
the advantage of doing that and getting rid of the bad stuff. The removal
of organic and inorganic colors is not so much of a problem any more,
providing we have the ability to do it with carbon or ozone, and stay
away from chlorines we can at all.
Homeostasis
then: basically, we want to provide a system that is stable. If our system
is bouncing up and down-, high chlorine, low chlorine-, copper, no copper-,
high ozone, low ozone all this business-, we're never going to achieve
our desired effect. We want to have a system that's the same, always the
same. If we can achieve that, then the animals are basically going to
adjust to it and be fairly healthy as a result. Maintain, as much as possible,
a constant temperature. As much as possible, have control over salt concentrations:
we can control that and we should. Sea water is 3.5% salt. Most closed
systems manage their salt somewhere less between 2.6% and 3.0%. But whatever
you choose, maintain it somewhere at a constant level pH has an effect
upon chlorine and chloramine. We didn't even get into pH. pH has a important
effect on these things and should be maintained as steadily as possible.
Water hardness:
If we're using the HTH, the calcium hypochloride should be watched. Calciur
is one of the hardness salts, that when put into the water produce some
of the calcium salts thz are in effect similar to soaps and are potentially
there to precipitate into white or gra substances. Hardness affects the
clarity of the water and hardness is one of the things we don look at
very often, but I think we should. In adding HTH to our systems, we're
constantly addin calcium, and we're potnentially leading ourselves down
the road to precipitating some of thes calcium salts that are potentially
going to give us problems down the road. So we've got t consider what
we're doing when we're adding these chemicals and what effect they're
going t have upon the ultimate results in the long run.
We're going
to go to John Dineley now and lie's going to give us a rundown on Europ
systems.
JOHN DINELEY:
Okay, I wrote this all out on the plane across, so it's a bit in note
form, so I hope you'll excuse me. In introduction, I'd like to say that,
although I've been primarily a trainer of marine mammals over the last
eleven years, because of the ways European zoos and oceanariums run, I
always had direct dealings with the water treatment care of my charges
from understanding chemical water tests through to stripping down filter
units themselves. I would briefly like to relate the situation as I see
it in Europe in general and in the U.K. (United Kingdom) in particular
with regard to water treatment systems. Most of the U.K. systems are closed
systems. Only one facility has an open system which runs from sub-beach
filters, positioned below the high tide mark. The use of DE filters was
very popular in the early 1960's, in the U.K. It has now completely died
out: so as far as I know there are no systems in the U.K. operating with
DE filters anymore, although in Europe they still do use them. Sand filtration
is now the major type of filter used. Mainly standard pressure filters
running us about 200-250 gallons per square foot per hour, and high rate
filters running at 1,000 gallons per square foot per hour; sometimes more,
sometimes less. Now those of you who read my article in the last issue
of Soundings on the presentation I gave at the last European Association
for Aquatic Mammals meeting, on filtration, will be aware of my bias against
high-rate filters. However, I must re--emphasize that my criticism is
aimed at badly designed systems. I know of at least one large oceanarium
which uses high-rate filters on their show pool to good effect. However,
these have been well designed and have proper backwash facilities. It
was, in fact, the cheapness of the small fiberglass high-rate filter systems
which led to their wide use in the U.K. While we're on this subject, it's
interesting to note that a very good rapid gravity filter system can be
homemade. A colleague of mine at the University in Denmark has a system
he built himself, some years ago, in operation for containing harbor porpoises,
which works very well. There are not many good water treatment systems
in operation in Europe. We still have systems, which have standards one
would not expect from the present state of the art of aquatic animal husbandry.
Common problems are poor filtration, low turnover rates, high animal to
water ratio, and excessive chemical additions. Now, in my opinion, the
first requirement for good water treatment has to be good filtration,
with correct animal to water ratio in combination with a reasonable turnover
rate. The minimum standard for animal to water ratio as calculated by
Anderson, which was published in Aquatic Mammals, was 100 cubic meters
per Tursiops; in my opinion, a minimum requirement. This is in a closed
system, of course. Unfortunately, it has been my experience that excessive
use of chemicals, such as chlorine, are being used to compensate for the
lack of aforementioned requirements very much to the detriment of the
animals. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that if a system is using more
than 2 or 3 parts per million of total chlorine to maintain a system in
check, the system probably fails in one, if not all, of the fundamental
requirements. Well, this has been a very brief run through of my opinions
of water treatment systems. I hope they haven't been too negative. I've
stayed clear of detailing my own water treatment methods and practice
in hopes that I can answer specific questions from the floor.
Al Clifton
will now tell us about the system at the Niagara Falls Aquarium.
AL CLIFTON:
I think most of you have probably had the opportunity to see our system.
If not you'll certainly get the opportunity tomorrow at the wine and cheese
party. Our system is fairly basic, built in 1965 and, at the time, the
feeling was DE was probably the best system going. We have approximately
100,000 gallons in our pool. It's a circular pool. We have four filter
bay areas in the back, each has a manifold that houses 35 filter cores,
so we're looking at about 6 square feet of filter area per core. We've
got about 840 square feet of total filter area for the whole system. Turnover
rate'. we're looking at about once every 100 minutes, so a little bit
less than two hours. We have two really good pumps that put out 500 gallons
a minute, apiece. The salt we use is just a brine solution of bulk Purex
salt. In the pool we try to run a specific gravity that fluctuates between
1.018 up to maybe 1.022; it averages about 1.020. Make-up water due to
backwashes probably runs about 10% a week. Each of our filter bays holds
approximately 15,000 liters or a shade under 4,000 gallons. Each set usually
has to be backwashed about once a week.
As far as
chemical additions go, we use chlorine. Our chlorine is what most people
use, sodium hypochlorite, 15% solution. We do not meter out chlorine into
the pool, we use hand addition. Metering is certainly a lot easier to
handle, but the feeling on the hand additions is that it does not allow
for constant levels of chlorine, so you do not get algae that tends to
build up a resistance to certain low levels of chlorine. By adding chlorine
maybe twice a day, in larger amounts you are, in a sense, sort of "mini-shocking"
the system each time. While that certainly may be true, I'm not sure,
as far as the animals' welfare is concerned, that's necessarily the best
way to do it. We find in our system that we tend to get a chlorination
which is essentially what water treatment facilities used to use. I have
not, for as long as I can remember, ever been able to get a free chlorine
reading on our system, ever. We use a LaMott DPD test kit that breaks
it down into free chlorine and your chloramines that Jay was talking about.
We deal almost totally in monochloramines, dichloramines and hydrogen
trichlorites, which probably, in the long run, isn't the best system.
Certainly, the free chlorine is much more effective as far as bacterial
elimination goes. The chloramines certainly last much longer in the systems,
but the free chlorine probably is about 25 times more efficient as far
as a disinfecting agent.
We try to maintain our pH with additions of muriatic acid, which is technical
grade hydrochloric acid. We drop our pH down to about 7.0, the feeling
being that at low pH's the reaction is going to tend to slide more heavily
towards free chlorine than it does at the higher pH's once you get up
around 7.8-8.0. The reaction tends to go towards the less active chloramines
in this situation so we try to keep our pH at the Aquarium down around
7.0. Whether or not that's been effective, it's difficult to say. Whether
or not we are creating free chlorine and that the free chlorine is just
acting so rapidly with the ammonia products that are in the water and
immediately dissipating out, we have yet to determine. We do know that
we have seen much better results in our bacteria samples since we started
pH control about 4 years ago. So it has worked for us up to date, and
we've seen no need to discontinue it.
We floc with
alum. You usually have your choice of alum or ferric chloride. We use
alum even in our DE system. What we try to do is to add about one-half
pound of alum a day. We tried other levels but we try to use the least
amount of alum that we feel is necessary to achieve the desired clarity
in the system. That's worked fairly well. The other thing we do is we
add some levels of activated charcoal to the system. What we also have
is a slurry system that has a small pump that meters DE and charcoal continuously
to these filter bays. What we don't want to have is our DE filter bays
set up and then gradually the filters become clogged, and the reading
on the gauges start to run up, and you start to get cavitation of your
filters. We generally add a little bit of DE and a little bit of charcoal
every day, to keep afresh layer on the filters, and that seems to help
quite a bit. You can easily overdo it, you can add too much DE over a
period of time, and you find that your filters just clog up way too fast,
and few things are worse than incurring the wrath of the maintenance department.
That's something that we learned long ago and something you don't want
to do. As far as levels go and rates of addition, we tend to keep our
chlorine level, our total chlorine level, let's say at .5 to probably
a maximum of 1.0 parts per million. Like I said, that's strictly all chloramines
in that reading. There's virtually no free chlorine whatsoever.
We add our
chlorine, like I said, twice a day, so we're averaging maybe two gallons
usually over a period of time, per day, as far as chlorine goes. Muriatic
acid: we find it doesn't take very much to keep the pH at 7. We add about
1 gallon of acid a day for 100,000 gallons, that's a lot. It usually doesn't
take very much more than that. I mentioned we use the LaMott DPD test
kit. We've found that that's relatively accurate. We used to use an old
ortho-tolidine test kit and we did not find the results to be particularly
accurate. We usually run our tests twice a day; in the morning and afternoon.
We'll monitor temperature which tends to run about 26°C on an average.
We'll monitor temperature, we'll monitor specific gravity, we'll monitor
pH and chlorine, maybe we'll make our alum additions or we'll do that
in the afternoon. We do not have anybody that works on the evening shift
or, for that matter, a midnight shift, that has the background for making
additions at other times of the day. So what we have to do is just make
certain that when we add chlorine in the afternoon, that level is going
to maintain itself pretty much through the night and that we don't come
in the next morning and find we have no clarity, a large algae bloom,
and you have to root through the waterto find the animals again. That
has happened. That's the one drawback to hand additions; if somebody's
in a hurry to go somewhere, let's face it, it does slip your mind, you
forget the chlorine addition and you usually pay for it the next day.
The problems
that we've seen in our system are usually what most everybody else sees,
at least as far as DE filters go. We suffer from short filter runs. We
may run three or four weeks before we have to shock-treat the water. When
I first started working at the Aquarium, we would probably have to do
a superchlorination every three months. Now we find that we have to do
them almost every three weeks. The load on our pool has not increased
appreciably, though we may have an extra 100 pounds of animal in the pool,
and we may be feeding an extra 10 or 13 pounds of fish a day, but that
certainly would not account for such a drastic change. I certainly don't
want to point fingers at this stage of the game but the city of Niagara
Falls does suffer from certain maladies in its water that most other places,
fortunately, do not have to put up with. As it is now, we were checking
the water today and we're starting to find inordinately high levels of
copper in our drinking water. I've talked to one person who just tested
his water on Friday and he was getting 3.0 parts per million out of his
tap. We're getting somewhat less than that, but certainly it's something
that you want to be concerned about. Our major problem is the water in
the Niagara River is less than pure. In 1979, the city was requested to
switch their water intakes to a different part of the river which tends
to be very limey. We get very high carbonate readings in our water now
and that leaves us with alot of problems. When we make up our synthetic
sea salts, we cannot run a batch of instant ocean salt anymore without
first having to run it through diatomaceous earth filters to clean it
up. We get extremely high alkalinity readings in our water. Whether or
not that has any effect on our system, I don't know. The eye irritation
we've seen is certainly a result of the chloramines, and the green coloration
we've run into in our system is the same thing that Jay was talking about.
We've tried in certain instances to get rid of it, assuming that it was
algae, without success. It could very well be, as Jay says, that ozone
is going to be the coming thing. We tried UV light before I worked here.
I know they've used it at Mystic and, for the purpoises that Jay was talking
about, I did not feel that it was a very good system. I just don't think
that on our size system the contact time was there. I really hate to knock
UV systems in general, but, at least in our system, it did not work. What
works on our system may not work in another system. There certainly are
generalities involved, but I don't think you can concretely say that you
have to do A, B and C to get clean water-, there are just too many variables
involved. I've always felt that as long as what you're doing has worked
for you in the past and your animals seem to be healthy enough, well then
that's fine: maybe it'll work for me, maybe it'll work for you, maybe
it won't work for anybody, but you just have to go with what works for
you.
For a coliform test we use a Millipore membrane filter test. We have levels
from 100-150 colonies per 100 ml. We also, just as a matter of note, mark
down the total plate count and the total coliform count so that we can
check over our records and see if one tends to be fluctuating more than
the other. If anybody has any questions on our system, if you don't want
to talk about them now, I'll be over at the Aquarium so feel free to call
any time.
Austin McDevitt
will now talk about the Minnesota zoo
AUSTIN McDEVITT:
We have two marine mammal systems at the Minnesota Zoo. We've also got
two fresh water aquatic mammal systems. I'm going to concentrate primarily
on marine mammal systems. If anyone has any questions about the beaver
and otter systems, I'd be happy to answer them later. We have a beluga
whale exhibit. It's a system that runs about 500,000 gallons of water;
that includes the exhibit pool, the holding pool and the volume of water
that's contained within the piping and filter chambers. Our dolphin exhibit
contains about 90,000 gallons of water. This, again, is artificially manufactured
salt water. We add sodium chloride to our water system to produce the
desired levels of salt. In our whale exhibit we maintain the salt level
between 1.5% and 2.0% salt. In the dolphin exhibit we maintain the salt
levels at 2.0% to 2.5% salt. The reason that the whale exhibit specific
gravity, or salt content, is lower than that of the dolphin is because,
when we were out capturing our whales in the Hudson Bay and Churchill
River area, we did take water samples up there and these are the approximate
levels of salt that we found in Hudson Bay. The filtration systems that
we have on both of these systems are high rate sand gravel filters, The
whale filtration system contains eight filter chambers. We pump approximately
1,200 gallons a minute through each of the filter chambers, which gives
approximately 576,000 gallons of water being filtered just about every
hour. So we're turning over the entire volume of the pool within every
hour. On our dolphin exhibit we have two sand gravel filters and we're
pumping approximately 450 gallons per minute through that particular filter
system, which gives us about 72,000 gallons per hour. So we turn over
the entire volume of that system every hour and fifteen minutes to hour
and a half. The only make-up water that is added to either of these complexes
is the water that's used in backwashing. We backwash the filters through
a reverse pumping procedure. Water is pumped from the exhibit through
the filter and the water coming from the filter is then dumped. It takes
approximately 6,000 gallons of water to do that. The wasted water is then
made up with fresh water and then we also add salt to that to bring the
specific gravity levels to where they should be. The backwashing is done
on the basis of a differential pressure on the filter chamber each day.
It usually runs every other day for the various systems. So that we have
some filters being backwashed on one day and others not being backwashed.
The chlorine
levels that we maintain in our pool are as follows: our free chlorine
levels will run anywhere from 0 to .04. We hold our total chlorine levels
in the whale pool to no more than 1 part per million and in the dolphin
pool we keep it at .8 parts per million. The reason for that is that we've
found that the dolphins, at least in our system, get eye irritations if
we get above .8 parts per million. So we maintain the level in the dolphin
pool lower than we do in the whale pool. The type of tests that we perform
on a daily basis in both systems are temperature readings, free and total
chlorine, pH, specific gravity and nitrogen ammonia levels. On a weekly
basis we test for nitrates, nitrites, phosphates or phosphorus, reactants,
sulfates, total hardness and turbidity. On a monthly basis we also do
aluminum, copper and iron testing. The reason for this is because the
water that we are using is very high in heavy metals and in calcium. We
have a lot of calcium in the water that we're using in Minnesota. We also
send out a number of tests to an independent testing company on a quarterly
basis to be run for us, and there's a whole range of things that we test
there, primarily for our own information to see if the well water is okay.
The equipment that we use for most of our water quality testing in-house
is a Hach electrophotometer for getting our different levels. We have
one of these at the dolphin holding area, it's a portable electrophotometer.
Down in our veterinary lab we have a stationary electrophotometer and
the lab techs primarily run these tests in the morning. If there is a
problem, we then monitor the levels in the pool on an hourly basis. We
do total and fecal coliform counts twice a week. We use a membrane filter
technique, a standard lab method. We also use Millipore coliform supplies,
but it seems that our lab method is superior for coliform recovery. I
think that's about it on our pool.
What we have
been doing at the present time is looking into an ozone system. We looked
into it before the zoo opened but at that time, as Jay was saying earlier,
the technology was such that the systems were rather large and had operational
problems. In the past several years the technology has been improved and
the systems are much smaller, compact and more inexpensive to purchase.
There have been some problems with the maintenance of these systems, and
at the present time, we are waiting for more information on the maintenance
cost of these systems before we purchase one. We have, from time to time,
if we have a buildup of nitrites in our whale or dolphin system, tried
some shock treating with chlorine. Primarily what
we've done is shock treat the holding pools. We're able to isolate our
holding pools from our main exhibit pools and we shock treat the holding
pool over a period of 24 hours. With a bubbler in the back pool we burn
off the excess chlorine, so that the remaining water can then be mixed
with our regular system. This has worked very effectively for us in dropping
down the biological levels in the pool. It does run into an expensive
proposition if you do have to do this every couple of weeks. I think that's
about it for our system.
We're going
to go to Greg Siebenaler now from Fort Walton Beach and he'll give us
some information on an open water system.
GREG SIEBENALER:
Hi. I guess the reason I was asked up here is to show you just how easy
some of us have it. We have four cetacean pools. We use only Atlantic
bottlenose dolphins. Each pool has its own filtration system and heater
hooked to it. During the summer months, when our water is very warm, we
constantly run raw sea water through our systems and it's also being filtered
simultaneously through a filter design that we came up with at the Gulfarium
26 years ago. It's a sand filter with three grades of gravel in it. We
can turn over 1,500 gallons a minute through the filter. It's very high
rate and works very well. Our pinnipeds all have their own small filtration
system which is a small, commercial, rapid-flow filter. I personally don't
like it at all because of the buildup of excretion, body oils and fish
oils that seem to clog these systems up. So these pools run constantly,
year-round, on their own open system.
The only
chemical we use at the Gulfarium is chlorine and it's used more as an
algaecide than anything else just to keep the algae growth down in the
tanks. We're bringing in 1,500 gallons an hour to all of our pools so
everyone's always getting new water all the time, plus it's being filtered.
In the winter months we cut the cetacean pools down to where they're only
getting raw sea water for make-up after backwashing our filters and we
have to start regulating our chlorine levels a little bit more closely.
We use the hand addition method for adding chlorine. Each man is responsible
for his own area. It's very simple, it works well, it's designed to be
done at certain hours during the day so that you don't run into the problems
of someone running around at the end of the day because he just got a
date or something. So it seems to work out pretty well for us.
We have coliform
tests taken as required in our state. It's done by an independent testing
lab who comes in during specific hours but unexpectedly and they do their
own sampling. That way we don't have anyone in our organization trying
to make his area look better by throwing chemicals in it just 30 minutes
or so before people come to test water. We have found that this has happened.
We only change
the regulation of chlorine an average of twice a year due to the sunlight
that we have there. During the summer months we have 16 to 17 hours of
sunlight a day. We chlorinate twice a day. But because the water's being
taken away all the time, we don't have a chlorine buildup. Chlorine doesn't
stay in our system more than about an hour, or two hours at most. In a
nutshell that's just about it. If anyone has any questions, I'll be happy
to answer them later.
ED KRAJINIAK.-
I would like to talk about the system we use at the Brookfield Zoo. Our
building was the first inland dolphinarium built in the country. So when
they set it up they really didn't have any idea of what was going on.
We have two systems. One houses our five bottlenose dolphins that holds
200,000 gallons of water. We have three California sea lions, a harbor
seal and a walrus in a system that holds about 65,000 gallons of water.
Basically, the same thing is done to both systems. The water that we use
is a combination of lake water (Lake Michigan) and well water. The combination
will change depending on the Zoo's usage of water. The filters we use
are diatomaceous earth, vacuum leaf type filters. It's a pretty decent
system; we haven't had any real problems with it. The turnover rate of
the water is about every hour and a half in both systems.
The salt
that we use is Morton bulk Purex but we've tried many types of salt and
they all work pretty well. From Morton Salt we've used pure table salt,
we've used bulk Purex, we've used water softening crystals and water softening
pellets. We've also used International Salt Company solar salt, and the
salt worked very well. The only problem we had with the salt was that
you might get coral in it, wood chips and things like that, so it was
creating problems in our salt holding tank. If the tank was designed a
little differently you could use solar salt quite efficiently. The salt
is very cheap. We paid about $25.00 a ton. We use an awful lot of salt,
because we maintain a 31/2%, by weight, salt content, which would be about
1.025 specific gravity. Our building, automatically through the filtering
system, changes 10% of the water every day. So we add 20,000 gallons of
water a day, and it's a fresh, salt water mixture. We use between 15 and
20 tons of salt every week, so that adds up to quite alot of salt. It
gets kind of expensive.
When they
designed our building, they copied the Miami Seaquarium and Marineland
of the Atlantic operations. These places would naturally flush the water
through because they had the ocean right there. The people who designed
the building had no idea what they should do, so they figured it was best
to flush the water and, basically, that's how they designed the system.
So that's the biggest difference between our system and any other system,
other than an open system that is right next to the ocean.
The chemicals
we add are chlorine or sodium hypochlorite. We use bottles of Clorox,
a 5% solution, as opposed to a 15% solution. We also use a chemical that's
a stabilized chlorine dioxide, and we've been using it for about twenty
years. We use about four gallons of sodium hyochlorite and about two or
three quarts of the chlorine dioxide a day. We meter the chlorine into
the pools over a 24-hour period so it's constantly going in through a
small metering pump that's on a timer. By metering the chlorine in over
a 24-hour period the level of chlorine stays pretty constant in the pools.
We floc our tank by using ferric chloride. We use a quart of ferric chloride
that is pumped directly into the tank. It goes in at midnight and it's
filtered out by our DE filters in about three to four hours. Because the
water's being flushed through the tank pretty fast, we maintain the pH
the same as whatever the pH is of the Park water that's coming into the
pool. The pH ranges between 7.5 and 7.8. If the pH drops to 7.4 or 7.3
we will add a little soda ash.
One other
thing that we're experimenting with was the use of an algaecide. We have
been using small amounts of Simazine to control the algae growth. It seems
to work but, after three months of use, it looks like we may have resistant
algae strains building up. We maintain a combined chlorine level of about
.09 - .11. If we go higher than .3 in our system we start getting eye
irritations. We test the chlorine twice a day with a Hach ortho-tolidine
test kit. We never get a free chlorine reading at all. Probably because
we are at such low concentrations. We test the water for coliform by using
a Millipore coli-tester. The total count will range anywhere from 0 to
70 colonies per 100 millileters.
To move back
to chlorine testing for a moment, we have never been able to get readings
with a DPD chlorine test kit in our pool. We're not really sure what ties
it up, but the readings will always be off the scale. Instead of that
usual red color that you get, it turns yellow or orange, and there's nothing
you can compare the color with. The Hach test kit we use has two solutions,
ortho-tolidine and sodium arsenite. We take one test using the indicator
ortho-tolidine and we use that as a total. Then we take another sample:
we mix sodium arsenite into that, which totally dissipates the chlorine.
Then we add orthotolidine to the sample. You get a lower reading which
is an interference reading because all the chlorine is gone. So we subtract
that from the first reading and that's what we use as a total chlorine
reading. With this method, or any other method, we've never been able
to get a free chlorine reading at all. We have taken samples and have
taken them right over to the lab. They'd run them and the readings would
be the same as what we would pick up with the ortho-tolidine test kit.
We do not
really monitor nitrite, nitrate or ammonia very much. Because of the fact
we're pumping a lot of water through our system, we usually get zero readings
for everything. The highest nitrate reading recently has been ten parts
per million. Nitrite could go anywhere from one part per million to two
or three. So we're dealing with very small amounts.
As I said
before, we run coliform tests and we test for fungus and yeast. We use
a Millipore test sample mode. It's a very simple test. We also send them
out to the lab. In our case the Millipore unit is right on the head, we've
never had any problem. It seems to be exactly the same as what we run
into when we get the regular lab test back. That's about it for Brookfield
Zoo. Does anyone have any questions for the panel?
QUESTION:
You're always talking about algae in the pools. Why don't you have divers
scrub it off?
ED KRAJNIAK:
In our pool we have divers go in to clean off the algae. We use about
50 tanks of air a week. The problem is that the algae is always growing
fast and you are never really able to get ahead of it. We find that when
we scrub the algae, the chlorine level in the pool drops to zero, because
the algae floating in the water uses it up. This causes a build up of
chloramines and you have to add a lot more chlorine to get up to the level
you are trying to maintain which also causes more chloramines. If you
could use an algaecide to keep the algae down, without any harm to the
animals, you could also use less chlorine. You would have less organic
material in the pool that would combine with the chlorine, causing a build
up of chloramines.
KAYCE COVER:
I have three questions for Jay. I would like to ask him what kind of schedule
or how much attention has been given to the scheduling of how you dose
with algaecide? For example, at the National Zoo we had problems with
using an algaecide along with chlorine because together the two things
form an insoluble green precipitate and we had green polar bears and it
wasn't March. So that was a big problem. Another thing is, with using
activated charcoal with any kind of water system, if you're also using
chlorine, won't you be working against yourself? Unless you dose with
chlorine and then let that dissipate, how would you account for that?
Finally, I had heard of some new research on the way chlorine affects
fatty acids in the skin and this might account for some of the fungal
diseases that people with closed systems have been experiencing.
JAY SWEENEY.
Well, starting from the third on down, chlorine's affect on fatty acids;
we don't know really what, specifically, is the effect chlorine has on
skin as it might relate to the onset of fungal diseases. No doubt there
is some effect because it's just unreasonable to think otherwise when
we see fungal diseases coming up in closed systems oceanariums where there
is a high use of chlorine and high chloramines versus open systems where
there's relatively low use of chlorine and we virtually rarely see any
kind of Candida infections. So undoubtedly there's an effect of chlorine
or chloramines on skin and it may be directly on the fatty acids of the
epidermis. So there is probably a relationship there. We don't know what
it is as yet and you're probably more informed than I am at the present
time on that.
As far as
carbon versus chlorine is concerned, yes, carbon will take the chlorine
out and the idea of using carbon is that if you're using carbon all the
time, if it's one of your treatment units, you're not going to be able
to use chlorine. However, there's all sorts of uses for carbon and/or
ozone with chlorine systems in an alternate type of a setup. If you're
going to use carbon in a chlorinated system, the idea is to use it only
in alternate periods to get rid of the chloramines and chlorine and everything
else that's built up as an alternative to shocking your tank. But if you're
going to use it with chlorine on a continual basis, you're really fighting
yourself and defeating the purpose of chlorine in the first place.
With algaecide
versus chlorine producing the green color, I don't know. Chlorine does
funny things with other compounds. No doubt you've produced a pigmented
molecule that's similar to these high molecular weight chloramine compounds.
There's no point in using algaecides with chlorine. What the point was,
is in controlling algae using algaecides independently, but in succession,
alternating them; chlorine being one, algaecide being the other. I would
like to see an ozone system whereby you would alternate with chlorine
for a week, go to Simazine for a week, go to copper for a week, and do
this kind of alternating so that you're not mixing any two algaecides.
You would be using these things independently so that we're not allowing
any of these developing resistance and tolerances on behalf of the algae
to these various algaecides, which we do see, and which is, no doubt,
happening with Ed at Brookfield. The point with chlorine is, chlorine
is a strong oxidant. It's going to oxidize most anything you put in there
with it and in doing so, it's going to combine with that substance and
produce something. That something may be a color producing agent like
chloramine or like whatever it is that's produced your green coloring
on the polar bears.
MARK SHAWVER:
Three basic questions flocculation, pros and cons-, if you use alum is
there any buildup and problems later on? Second, total alkalinity: can
you get to a toxic level? We generally use gas chlorine, therefore, we
have a battle to keep the pH raised, so we're using soda ash. We use soda
ash as opposed to baking soda which I've done some reading on, but I've
never heard of it used with aquatic mammals. We believe that using soda
ash tends to raise the total alkalinity and I'd like to have a response
on total alkalinity and if there is a toxic level of total alkalinity.
JOHN DINELEY:
Well, if you're trying to use something like soda ash to raise the total
alkalinity you're wasting your time. The only way you're going to raise
the total alkalinity is basically to add sodium bicarbonate. That will
raise your total alkalinity. Things like sodium carbonate will not affect
it in any way whatsoever.
MARK SHAWVER:
The problem is the opposite. Our total alkalinity increases over months.
So what I'm asking is, is there a point where anybody thinks the total
alkalinity gets to a dangerous level? The point is, we don't feel it's
a problem, but we go from city water which is down to about 100 parts
per million and up to about 1,600 now. We don't see any effects,i but
we're just concerned.
JOHN DINELEY:
What's the water coming in at? What's the total alkalinity of the water
that's coming into your system?
MARK SHAWVER:
Well, it's about 100 or 120.
JOHN DINELY: And what kind of chlorine? You use gas chlorine? And you've
got total alkalinity going up to 1,600?
MARK SHAWVER:
Well, that's because of soda ash, we believe. That's the only place it
would come from.
JOHN DINELEY:
Possibly. If there were impurities in it might be. I don't know from the
point of view of the animals, but if you start going above, say 200 total
alkalinity, you're going to create problems for yourself with your machinery
to start with. I would say that if you are using gas chlorine, I would
expect the reverse problem, that you wouldn't be able to maintain total
alkalinity. You'd have to keep adding sodium bicarbonate and sodium carbonate
at a certain rate to maintain total alkalinity around about 100 or 150
parts per million. That's about the range that's in the ocean.
MARK SHAWVER:
But how are you going to lower this? If you use muriatic acid, for instance,
you're going to lower your pH.
JOHN DINELEY:
You will lower it momentarily, over a short period of time, but you'll
find your pH will go up again afterwards. The thing is you've got to do
it over a long period of time. You can't just start throwing acid in and
expect it to go down in two or three days. This thing has to be spread
out over a period of months. Especially if you've got a very high total
alkalinity. You'll probably do untold damage to your machinery and animals
if you try and throw loads of acid in, so it's got to be over a period
of time. But you'll find that, generally speaking, your pH will start
to come up again, which is the whole point of the total alkalinity. If
you've got none there at all, your pH will tend to go up and down like
a yo-yo with whatever alkaline or acid you're at. Once you've got the
total alkalinity balanced at a certain level, you will tend to find your
pH will stay very much the same. But, of course, remember your animals,
and you will add chemicals into the system which are going to alter the
water anyway. But you do have a problem, a unique problem, with total
alkalinity getting too high.
AUSTIN McDEVITT:
In reference to the flocculation question, what kind of filters do you
have? We have two systems -DE high rate and gravel.
In floccing
with alum, we've found in sand and gravel filters that what we originally
tried to do is shut down the system, the filtration system, floc the pool,
and then go in and vacuum out the sediment on the bottom of the pool when
everything settles out. The major problem we had is that the flocculant
following floccing, when it sets on the bottom of the pool as a precipitate,
is more of a heavy liquid precipitate. It doesn't precipitate out in a
crystalline form, so when you try to vacuum it, as soon as you get near
the bottom of the pool, it just all blows back up into the water.
So what we
did was to simply turn on our filtration system and then just keep a close
watch on the filters, so that when we got a differential pressure, we'd
immediately backwash. If you get too much of a flocculant in a sand and
gravel filter it's going to bind up the sand and you're going to have
channelling in your filter and won't be filtering anything at that point.
I don't know in a DE filter system. I think you could really foul up the
sleeves in a DE filter with a flocculant.
AL CLIFTON: It can be done, though. We use alum as a flocculant out on
our DE filter and I haven't really seen a problem. If you added slowly
and evenly, or if you could set up a system where you just had it dribble
in ahead of your filter, you don't run into any problem with DE filters.
AUSTIN McDEVITT:
I want to add one more thing in regard to the sand and gravel filters.
One thing that we do in Minnesota for additional clarity is that, after
backwash, we coat the upper level of the sand-gravel filter with a medium
called "Crystal-Flow" which is basically an artificial diatomaceous
earth. It's a manufactured product. We probably put about 1/2 inch on
top of each of the filters. The way we do this is that it's pumped into
the filter and we found that by doing this it increases our clarity probably
a hundred fold.
SHERYL WEAVER:
This is on flocculation with alum again. We had some sand and gravel filters
in our system and we've been adding alum to our filters the same way you
just described with this; Crystal Flow and, when you add your alum to
the pool, is that with the animals in the pool?
AUSTIN McDEVITT:
No.
JOHN DINELEY:
I just want to say that when you're using alum, you've got to be extremely
careful because if it gets into the water and your animals are present
in the water, alum at very low concentrations will be extremely irritating.
In fact, maybe much of the eye trouble that is sometimes attributed to
chlorine is, in fact, due to the fact that too much alum is in the pool.
SHERYL WEAVER:
In the way that we're adding our alum then, putting it right into the
rapid sand and gravel filters, do you think that most of it is passing
through the filters before we flocculate?
JOHN DINELEY:
It depends on the flow rate of your filter. If you're using high rate
filters, there's a good chance it will just go right back in the pool.
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